Okay, took a look at my GEPRC Cinepro PIDS, replicated them on my iFlight Cinebee just to see the difference, still way too hot. I went back to mostly stock and moved the sliders in both the pids page and the filters page in small increments until the motors were barely warm. The sliders are now more uniform and the bird appears to fly okay. As soon as the lawn people leave I'll take it outside and give it a test.